Wednesday, May 28, 2008

Rally Buggy Frame Blue Prints

or err



By Manolo Giménez
rural Argentina
The problem is not limited, much less in the raging debate about the deductions that has captured the attention of the Argentines in recent months .

's probably what they needed Luis D'Elia, Elisa Carrio, among others, to become relevant in their political schemes. But it is not needed in Argentina, or the presidential administration of Cristina Fernández.

What our country needs is to discuss a model of self-centered agricultural development-that is, adjusted for interest national-and, therefore, a sovereign state project.

And what precisely the Government's strategists have to grow creatively and patriots from the crisis Is it not sufficient to previous experiences of Peronism to know what might be the results of lie on the obsequious and bureaucrats?

"It is time for the lukewarm," said Julio De Vido, and the cold night just replied artificial consensus, almost delivery. Clearly, turning the popular passions is the specialty of the minister.

Later, Jorge Capitanich shows that read "hot" document prepared by the Justice Party favor to maintain export taxes on grains.
Not bad. Only this is the same person who not long ago, in 2003, introduced a bill which called for the "total elimination of the Agricultural Export Retention" (file S-0075/03 Chamber of Senators the Nation). Green fields



"Every landscape has its hills and valleys" , said Goethe. The field also.

In our blog we have tried to assist in understanding the problem of high prices, concentration, rents and monopolies, and transnational pools, etc.., Which installs in the rural economy Argentina gap a resounding social and productive system that consolidates the deadlock.

understand, so that is an absolute nonsense about "the field" without regard to the gravity and power of different actors in the production of grains, ranging from the Big Six to the owner of less than 200 hectares.

But the nuances of rural protest must not only be understood solely from the objective conditions but also from the subjective conditions.

We do not mean only the historical differences that kept the four entities-Agrarian Federation, for example, has had and has a regulatory preaching hardly share the Rural Society, "but also the effects of laissez faire Cavallo, who left a legacy internal marketing system with all sorts of" licenses. " (Because the sale is black, not go further, which represents a not insignificant percentage of the transactions.)

In this scenario, it is possible that producers in similar situations act differently, depending on who their customers and their way of selling.

Perhaps this is why, while blocking the ports of Cargill, General Oil-Dreyfus Deheza and that firm has made its plant in General Lagos, Santa Fe- some leaders, in interviews and speeches, do not even dare to mention these same oligopolies.

Growing from the crisis

insist on this formula. Otherwise, it is possible that the desired agreement between the Government and "the" are confined to mere shaft of retention, without progress in the allocation of resources or the creation of instruments that tend to the nationalization of foreign trade , in response to the problems of concentration and loss of food sovereignty, which characterize the Argentine soy model.

're talking about the model that holds our brief "economic miracle" based on flow of investment funds and multinational corporations, aimed at both agribusiness and mining. That is, following the cumulative pattern of the Chinese giant and the European intermediaries.

Argentina needs to roll back the process of concentration of agricultural and technological dependence from an accurate and updated.

must assume that the "oligarchy vaccine and pro-British", which marked our teachers of national thought, no longer exists. The industrial proletariat, which was the backbone of Peronism, today does not meet the numerical weight and dynamics needed to lead the labor movement. Forces Armed lack of a national program, and even a defined agenda, and the nationalist intelligentsia has been almost without relief.

is a mistake to fight the battles new maps of the past. And yet again encorsertar policy slogans and contradictions that anything they say to future generations. For the vast majority of new workers, the gorilla is not nothing but an African animal.

"Either we invent or we err" , Simón Rodríguez said , Bolivar's teacher. Maybe it was time to take the advice.

Monday, May 26, 2008

Blender Blueprintshouses

THINK Jauretche


(Click on image to enlarge)

This past Friday, May 23, was held in the Library "San Martín" de Mendoza National Thinking Day "Think Jauretche" , where the test was presented Juan Quintar "Thinking Tin: Arturo Jauretche thinking. "

The book, recently published, is one of the most original and valuable approach to the work of writer "Zonceras Argentinas Manual," "The Medium Hair in Argentina society" or "Army and Politics , among other classics of the thinking of national emancipation. Vitalizes Quintar

Jauretche, it does present and operational on the question of Argentina's problems. Since the restoration of its conservative origins, the author presents the controversial and revolutionary that moved through FORGE and the Peronist Party, as the perfect incarnation of what Roberto Ferrero called "the reversal of the sign of the category" . That is, the change in meaning of ideologies originating in the specific historical process in Europe, almost all of them, when confronted with specific problems of our own historical development.

For as communists and socialists played a role counter frankly, the transpolar uncritically these revolutionary doctrines from the Old World, the "conservative" as one said Jauretche the path of national revolution.

This method of enlarging your hat instead of shrinking the head (as a metaphor for Quintar jauretcheana cited in the talk) was the focus of an exhibition that addressed not only questions of method and literature but mainly topical political issues .

Among them, the stifling discipline and Manichaeism Argentina dominates the political scene today. In this regard, noted that Arthur Jauretche Quintar only lent obedience to his ideas, which never subordinated to an identity or partisan convenience.

In a panel coordinated by Manolo Giménez , the writer was accompanied by social scientists Aritz Recalde and Graciela Cousinet (Deputy Dean of the Faculty of Political and Social UNCuyo), who provided historical and critical items exposure.

The meeting was opened by the MP and owner of Union Oil and Gas Private Cuyo Dante Gonzalez, who noted that "the trade union movement is the natural refuge of national thought. Because unions are the last bastion of popular solidarity. "
"This is a crucial historical period," he said workers and intellectuals to unite our thinking and feeling, given the perspective of the Great Latin American country recover. "

spoke on the final-ever Ernesto Jauretche masterful narrative of our political and intellectual history, and Jorge Marziali sang "Thus spoke Jauretche" and "When Peron was Cangallo" , both belonging to his latest CD "San Singingpower" .

Thursday, May 8, 2008

Sore And Swollen Gums

Are we fighting against the oligarchy? Observatories


By Alberto Alberti

N. 's Note: Internet swarm alleged explanations "of national thought" about the conflict between the Executive Branch officials with farmers.

feathers from some respectable officialdom, as Norberto Galasso, to the eternal vane Antonio Cafiero incurred in the common mistake of confusing the intellectual tradition of popular nationalism with maps of the past. They were so brilliantly addressed by Arturo Jauretche, Raúl Scalabrini Ortiz and Jorge Abelardo Ramos , but must be updated to the new circumstances. Today

ownership of land and agricultural production is substantially different from the times of the "oligarchy vaccine." Monopolies biotech seed pools and exporting corporations today are the dominant bloc.

This note is part of a series aimed at clarifying the operation thereof.

With
accounts to
According to research by journalist Raúl Dellatorre -published by the newspaper Página 12 - exporters, based in the Customs Code, liquidated withholding taxes on a lower value of that bill. But the producer will discount on the total value.

Suppose, for example, that a ton of soybeans is worth $ 500 (FOB / in boat). The exporter buys that value to the producer and he discounted rates, a collection fee and 35% to be paid in the customs and export retention. Leaving aside the freight and collection fee and deducting withholding only the farmer is paid the hands of the exporter:

500 to 35%

ie

500 to 175 = $ 325 per tonne

Then the exporter selling their goods and settled in the act of withholding this process getting $ 370.37. In other words, 9.46% more ($ 45.37) than you paid to the producer.

How did the exporter for more money to the producer if the deductions in the two situations are 35%?

The solution to this enigma lies in the interpretation by the exporter in the Argentine Customs Code, specifically, under art. 737 which says: "Notwithstanding the provisions of art. 735, are excluded from the taxable value of duties and other taxes that impose taxes on exports. "

Dellatorre says about it: "(...) Customs Code enables you (the exporter) to believe that the export FOB value 'and' includes the right export. That is, the FOB value is the net (taxable) 'more' export right. "He continues:" The calculation is not illegal, but arises from an interpretation of the Code which applies for many years .

say that the exporter is interpreted that the deductions are contained within the $ 500 per ton and to know how much tax you should make this account:

500 / 1.35 ie remove

35% to 500 and to deduce the tax base:

500 / 1.35 = 370.37

and know what you must pay:

370.37 x 35% = 129.63 dollars (370.37 + 129.63 = 500 dollars)

But when he moved the discount to the producer, did on the final price or FOB and not contained therein.

Moreover, when the former Minister Martin Lousteau launched the measure, also applied on the final price. That is, with this maneuver, which disregards the decision made by the Executive, the exporter pays for withholdings only 25.9% (129.63 dollars) per ton. What

struggle? Who did the oligarchy?

Thus exporting companies, of which only 5 control 90% of exports (Cargill, Bunge and Born, Dreyfus, General Oil Deheza, the government senator Roberto Urquia, and Vicentín) generated in this process, total absence of state controls, a net gain of 9.1% paid by farmers and should join the government accounts.

The more deductions increase the greater the gains of these companies. Consider the same example as above, but with the retention of 44%.

pay the producer to sell 44% in respect of deductions to exporter:

500 x 44% = $ 220

and obtained by selling a ton of soy

500 to 220 = $ 280

turn, sell the exporter before the government will use the distraction and draw the tax base:

500 / 1.44 = $ 347.22

and on this apply the value of retention:

347.22 x 44% = 152.77 U.S. dollars
(347.22 + 152.77 = $ 500)


$ 67.22 That is less than that provided by the producer. In other words $ 67.22 per ton of gain and, therefore, be paid as deductions

30.55% 13.45% less of the tax. Thus demonstrated that each increase of deductions mean more profits for exporting companies.

When retention is 35% such win by 9.1% and if the tax was 44% gain would be 13.45%.

The result is a greater transfer of funds from the direct producers to export corporations (and evaders). Apostille



The 2007/08 season is estimated by the government in 47 million tons of soybeans, with retention of 35%, I invite the reader to estimate the gain for tax evasion withholding that will transnationals operating in the country. Creepy right?

should be noted that this system of tax base is not only used for soybean exports but is used in most of the products exported from Argentina.

Saturday, May 3, 2008

Reebok Rbk Precision Trainer Manuel

Media and Culture (Note 3)


By Octavio Getino
specific
As the mainstream media's clear that his power and influence has grown simultaneously with the loss of confidence by the population in most of its social and political leadership which has built many journalists and communications specialists as judges, prosecutors and "leaders" policies of the big media companies, clearly associated or dependent who dominate the local economy and crime. Media and neoliberal globalization are intimately linked
.

Therefore, as noted by journalist Ignacio Ramonet , it is necessary and urgent to discuss how individuals can require large means "more ethical, more truth, more respect for ethics, which allows journalists themselves act as their own consciences and not according
interest groups, companies and employers that employ them ... The existence of a Media Observatory is an indispensable counterweight against the excessive power of big media groups which impose in respect of information, a single logic-the-market and a single ideology, the neo-liberal thinking. The existence of an observatory of this nature is intended to exercise a collective responsibility, on behalf of the interests of society and the right of citizens to be well informed. "
(www.observatoriodaimprensa.com.br / artigos)

At this point it is worth noting that most of the observatories of media and culture that exist in Latin America, not only deal with critical monitoring or restrictive, but, as noted by Susana Herrera , Ph.D. in Communication from the University of Navarra (Spain), "work primarily with a proactive nature leads them to try to make other practices, styles and content so that any criticism is not only destructive but also uplifting and constructive . Thus, American observatories share the conviction that at this point, the protest without proposal is useless. " (www.saladeprensa.org/art638.htm)

face crises in our countries, observatories for new social media are more encouraged by a tradition that has insisted in bringing democracy and communication perspective emancipatory and critical. Places to see and watch the city, which control the operation of political power can in turn generate social participation, active in public life. Bet, as King notes Germain, "by pluralist information to discuss the issues that matter to society, to convene different nuances of interpretation, that 'make people listen to what he meant by power." Like other social figures, observatories, and the observers expressed a path that, within the range of their actions, the vicissitudes and challenges of their own societies. " (www.veeduria.org.pe / articles / rey.htm)

observatories also means-or-called watchdogs seek to contribute to establish parameters to help verify compliance with these journalistic duties that encourage higher quality of living of citizens and the functioning of society. In a participatory democracy, that is, one that integrates a range of organizations and communities to influence decision making and the definition and monitoring of public policies, observatories can provide, according Germain Ortiz Leiva , University of La Sabana (Colombia) - a true mediator between media and society, increasing social space, so far practically empty, because the public has been converted into a set of dummy so consumers represented by opinion polls which use mainly quantitative methodologies necessarily reductionist, and nuances not realize the important social values \u200b\u200bof the community . (Www.saladeprensa.org/art293.htm)

On the other hand, does not correspond to the observatory's power to order or to punish anyone, as is typical of any system of scientific information, but to provide a service public reporting on the results of their studies, analysis or oversight committees, to be the community itself, and different sectors that form, those who make use, as they best suited for improving the interests of all. Something that goes beyond the merely statistical or quantitative and is also projected on the basic values \u200b\u200bof a democracy that seeks to rest on the basis of equity and participation. As

warns King Germain, the "look" does not look perfect vision but rather, recognizing the contingencies of view, claims that diverse perspectives are needed to modulate and understand the social prism. The observatories are, then, "experiences that acknowledge their partial vision, but above all that open confrontation with other perspectives, interact with other observations which in turn, come from different "places" in society. Stripped of eyes closed, the observatories are the prospects game. This is not a relativization of the eyes but with the requirement of complementarity. But how to ensure effective participation of different social sectors and the ownership by citizens of their analysis of information provided by the media? How to achieve integration between seeing / observing, action and transformation? How to achieve sustainability, and organizational time, compared to just episodic or cyclical? "

Given these and other questions, are not enough responses from economists and statisticians, but it requires a interdisciplinary analysis work that should not be absent from public information and communication, social scientists, cultural managers, plus agents and representative personalities of the community.
To sum all this makes a fundamental issue for democracy and development of culture and communication in each country. But it also warns of the need for a pluralistic and interdisciplinary management of observation and studies, so that the same may not be subject to sectorized interests, public or private, but it points to enable increasing community participation in its development.

Any system of observation or information in this area is not limited to monitoring the development of large conglomerates or private sector, but also the work of each national government and / or provincial policy and actions, or lack of them-in the fields of culture and media. In that sense not much of public policy in these fields has been one of the paradigm that the State, for he or she has given the community democratically, must be done in strategic areas for national development, such as the information communication and culture. The critical observation, not enforcement or censorship-of media content that spread, it is true not only to large companies that spread, but also to the work of those who manage staff on duty. Precisely the last

competent management in the regulation of broadcasting of the State, has stimulated policies to a real analysis of the content produced in communication systems and information, whether public or private. Many of the governmental action, they set about spasmodically and not pass some feint media, more sustained in some short-term political or economic disputes into a real concern to the media framing of these businesses and also to themselves-in the role of a public service, which is their rightful place. He also was treated with levity as a matter of singular importance as was the extension of radio-spectrum licenses owned by the whole nation and not of any particular government or private companies, without competitive bidding and without assessing compliance or not the obligations set out in the bidding documents at the time of grant to the focus groups that were already using them.

This explains the failure of successive calls to a new broadcasting law, the approximately 70 projects drawers in the National Congress, more than 200 amendments and decrees of "necessity and urgency" of the executive branch of the 90 Legislative Decree 22,285 of the last military dictatorship, obsolete and full of patches and patches, yet still, at least theoretically, a sultry effect. The more than eloquent absence of public debate on all these choices and omissions, is another characteristic of the erratic public policies on media that have followed in these years of democracy and that had a suspicious silence by different stakeholders.

Now, also, managers and principal beneficiaries of those intended to call to silence media lumpenaje true way-the subject of the creation of a Media Observatory, distorting information about the meaning of it, while facing again announced approval of a new Broadcasting Act. A law on the other hand, requires serious debate and democracy among the most representative sectors of the community. Participatory debate beyond the usual "small tables" to which usually visit only a few officials and business and that projects with federal participation and a sense in other areas-social organizations, academics, users, etc .- both the capital and the provinces.

The main problem lies in the existence or absence, of a clear awareness by policy makers and social, on the importance of social media and cultural industries all currently have, because in addition its growing economic potential and boosting employment, are the main vectors of the training (or Training), information (or misinformation), education (or des-education) and development (or devolution) Argentine cultural.

First Auditions Free Movies

Thanks Luis Cernuda

TIME (Ocnos)
comes a time in life when time reaches us. (Do not know if I express this well.) I mean that from that age we are subject to time and forced to have him, as if some angry sword flashing vision of paradise does not throw first, where every man has once lived free from the sting of death. childhood years in which time does not exist! One day a few hours are then figure of eternity. How many centuries will fit in the hours of a child? Remember that corner of the courtyard in the house where I sat alone and on the first rung of the marble staircase. The candle was cast, plunging the environment into a cool shade, and on the canvas, where the light sifted filtered noon, a six-pointed star stood their red cloth. Climbed to the balcony open, through the hollow of the court, the broad leaves of the fan palm, dark green and shiny, and down around the source, were concentrated flowering oleander bushes and azaleas. Rang water falling at a rate equal, numbing, and there in the bottom of the water a crimson fish swam restlessly moving, flashing their scales in a oro.Disuelta relálampago of the environment was a languor that was slowly invading my cuerpo.Allí, summer in absolute silence, punctuated by the sound of water, eyes open to a clear twilight which dramatized the mysterious life of the thing, I've seen times froze, suspended in the air, as the cloud that hides a god , pure air without passing.

Friday, May 2, 2008

Elbow Bandage For Dog

Magnolia (Luis Cernuda)

Magnolia
street was entered by an archway. Was narrow, While he was in the midst of it, extending his arms to the sides, could touch both walls. Then, after a gate was biased to be lost in the maze of other streets and squares that made up that old neighborhood. At the end of the street only had a small door is always closed, and looked as if the only way out over the houses, into a blazing blue sky. In a corner of the street was the balcony, which could climb, almost effortlessly, from the ground, and beside him on the garden wall, gushing with branches covering all the huge magnolia . Among the bright and sharp leaves perched in spring, with the subtle mystery of the virgin snow flakes and flowers. That magnolia was always more to me than a beautiful reality : it was estimated the image of life. Although sometimes wish otherwise, freer, more into the mainstream of men and things, I knew it was precisely that section of the tree live, that flourish without witnesses, who gave such a high quality beauty. His own zeal consumed him, and flowed in the desert a pure flowers as unacceptable sacrifice at the altar of a god.

Thursday, May 1, 2008

Is The Megalodon Real

The Magnolia of Luis Cernuda



The project was to put a Luis Cernuda overlooking a sculpture balcony of the Plaza de Molviedro .
What seem suitable sites being considered, including the Plaza de Molviedro ?
I find it all, but I think Luis Cernuda already has a monument in Seville . A monument and
?
Yes, a Agnoli M . The M Agnoli monumental in the corner of the Cathedral, opposite the Post Office, is the best monument that can devote Sevilla Luis Cernuda . Every time I pass I remember there's "Sunset on the Cathedral ." Why
a Agnoli M ?
do not you read " Ocnos ? Has not read "The reality and desire"?
For when these books will find the symbolic meaning of M Agnoli Luis Cernuda . Luis Cernuda always evoked Sevilla in the shade of a Agnoli M in bloom ...
Those who have read Cernuda in Sevilla fit in a minibus . While not remedy the ignorance of his work, a centenary (Sevilla, September 21, 1902 - Mexico City, 5 November 1963) will just contribute to the saturation of the topics, that if the eternal Sevilla made life impossible, if not forgiven their free sexual orientation ... True Cernuda left Sevilla. But if he were now here in seeing the Cernudian hand, would turn to go. I fear that the centenary will for many to make the picture next to Cernuda, but not really know his work over the yolks Seville San Leandro that the shops of silversmiths Pan Square mediocrity Given the coordinates of the cultural landscape, the only solution I see is that Joan Manuel Serrat burn a disc, putting music to poems Cernuda. A Antonio Machado at least I know through Serrat.

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Observatory on Media and Culture (Note 2)


By Octavio Getino

observatories in the field of culture and communication, there are thousands of them in the world, each with their particular approaches and modes of financing, operation and working methods. Without going any further, the very Organization of American States drew up a draft Inter-American Observatory of Cultural Policies and more than once national cultural leaders in Latin American countries agreed on the possibility of creating a Latin American Cultural Centre.
From these concerns, and with the approval of the governments of the region, ministers and officials of Latin American culture, have been launched, with varying degrees of commitment and clarity, cultural information systems.

This occurs for a couple of years in Argentina, just as exists in the Ministry of Culture of the National Cultural Information System of Argentina (SINC) (www.cultura.gov.ar / sync) and a Laboratory of Cultural Industries. The city government-from four years ago, there is a Cultural Industries Observatory, which we had to design and coordinate between 2004 and 2007 (www.buenosaires.gov.ar / observatory). A similar concern expressed by the Cultural Institute of the Province of Buenos Aires and other provinces, and there are universities and colleges have their own observatories, including the University of Cordoba School of Economic Sciences of Buenos Aires. There are also social organizations, such as UTPBA, \u200b\u200brepresenting journalists in the city of Buenos Aires.

They have different levels of development and evolution. Many are linked to universities, like University of San Paulo in Brazil, the Javeriana in Colombia, the Republic of Uruguay or the Project Media Monitoring in Ecuador. Other initiatives have arisen from media professionals or organizations such as the two Dereitos News Agency gives (ANDI / Brazil), dedicated to address the issue of the rights of children and young people in the media or citizen revision of Social Communication of Peru, and international initiatives as the Global Media Monitoring of Venezuela, associated with the International Media Centre (Media Watch Global).

is estimated that globally between 1000 and 1500, the number of observatories dedicated to culture and the media. As King notes Germain, Javeriana University and a member of the National Science Colombia: "focalizations Observatories have specific themes or lines of action. While some insist on rights of children and young people, others emphasize the role of media in the representation of internal conflicts, while a preliminary deal with the relationship between information and choice, others are concerned about human rights, privacy or the configuration of the otherness. There are observatories that seek to influence the creation of laws much more modern and democratic media news and information, while others try to keep under review the information provided by the media at a particularly turbulent political history, social and communicative country. All these issues are nevertheless common dimensions: recognition the importance of communication for democracy, the need to strengthen the public's right to information, the insistence on the demands from the public are made to the means for citizens to become increasingly autonomous, the urge to participate in building public agendas as well as the democratization of communications. "

The importance of this work worldwide, but local application-which is always observed a reduction of a context defined as a field of study, was shown in subsequent meetings, some regional, convened by bodies intergovernmental and other broader, as was done in San Sebastian, Spain, in November 2007, International Conference calls with the Observatories of Culture.

In France, Germany and Spain there are agencies created by the State that are independent of management (always contingent) of government, they observe the functioning of the media (state or private management) with the preservation of diversity and plurality of those making that observation. Perhaps the European monitoring most closely resembles the American is French Media Observatory, also created from the World Social Forum officially emerged on January 2003 in Paris. Global Connect to Media Watch is to "protect society against abuses and manipulations "and" defend the information as a public good and claim the right of citizens to be informed. " Another observation that makes a remarkable work is the EITO (European Monitoring Centre for Television and Children) located in Barcelona.

A survey conducted by Luis Albornoz, Carlos III University of Madrid and Michael Herschmann, Federal University of Rio de Janeiro in 2007 identified a total of approximately 55 observatories of cultural, political, cultural and media space Latin American (now it would be possible to identify about 150 observatories in the region). About half of them belonged to Spain that year, a dozen in Brazil, and four in each of the countries of Argentina, Colombia and Uruguay. It also knew the experience of other systems and media watchdogs in Peru, El Salvador, Venezuela and other countries in the region. Some of them financed by international foundations such as Ford, in Brazil, and other by powerful private enterprises, such as Brazil's Banco Itau (Itau Cultural Centre), a project which initially participate as a consultant and tended to cover a huge gap in information on the Brazilian cultural space. Others rely on agencies government, as above mentioned, and are therefore subject to political contingencies and unpredictable and repeated changes of staff. There are also mixed.

The criteria governing the clearance of these observatories, is to highlight and systematize quantitative and qualitative information on cultural resources and social media in each country or locality, either with mapping, survey and production data statistics or surveys bounded to certain topics, so they are processed and put into service in the community. The starting point is the unquestioned assertion that there is no policy-making process de decisiones, de carácter público o privado, que puedan ser confiables y sustentables sin tomar en cuenta una masa de información fidedigna y actualizada.

Un elemento predominante en muchas de estas experiencias, es la concentración en los estudios meramente cuantitativos –estadísticas, incidencia económica, cuentas satélites de cultura, etc.- aunque, a veces también esto se complementa con cierta orientación hacia el análisis de la dimensión cualitativa. Es decir, los contenidos simbólicos que son el soporte motriz y la esencia misma de las industrias culturales y los medios de comunicación, y sobre cómo ellos inciden no ya en la economía, la balanza comercial o el empleo, but in the formation of citizenship.

This topic was the subject of an international workshop in mid-2007 in Bogota, when the city's cultural authorities summoned experts from the Andean countries to exchange experiences in the design of cultural indicators to measure, not only the supply and demand for cultural activities or services or media-popular shows, television programs, music shows, events, tourist, sports, etc. .- but, in particular, the social impact that these policies, strategies and actions have in reducing violence, war on drugs, social inclusion, training citizen, the values \u200b\u200bof solidarity, etc. For those who were invited to participate in this meeting, this approach had an importance and a much more complex than the simple-but-necessary quantitative data collection (to which most of the companies also resist, because if the information is power, is to democratize the same with the power itself, a goal that does not match the sectoral interests of big business and media communication).